Tuesday 16 August 2011

Guest Blog - Why BrewDog Matters to Me


In response to Martin Doherty's guest blog, BrewDog shareholder and blogger,  Ian Prise tells us why the beer world is a far better place for having BrewDog around.

"I don’t actually remember how my love affair with BrewDog started. I wasn’t in there right when they started. I don’t remember ever seeing James and Martin selling beer at the farmer’s market, but then I used to work almost every Saturday, or if I had been off, I would have been out on the Friday Night. I must have read something in the press about them, I “liked” them on Facebook and I started reading their blog. I liked their style. I liked their sense of humour. I bought a few bottles of their beer from the supermarket, chilled them in the fridge, drank them, and liked them. I liked them a lot.  

Equity for Punks was announced in late 2009. I’d been toying with the idea of buying BrewDog shares for a while, but with the cost of Christmas I didn’t really have the cash. A combination of a Gas bill rebate, and the extension of the deadline for buying shares solved this problem.

In October  2009 they bought a Bar in Aberdeen and hoped to have it open by February.

In Early 2010 I became an Equity punk.

The problem was that I couldn’t at this point find any pubs in Aberdeen selling BrewDog. I was still drinking the mass market keg beers I’d been drinking for years, and had never really liked.
 The Pub they had bought was in a lot poorer condition, than they had anticipated. With planning, licensing and all the work needed February came and went without a grand opening of the Aberdeen bar.  I only drank it at home, or if we were celebrating, we occasionally ate out in Musa, which at the time was about the place in town selling Brewdog.

Finally in October BrewDog Bar Aberdeen opened. I was introduced to an exciting new world of craft beer.  

On probably my first visit, James, who I recognised from the press and the blog, came in to the bar with his girlfriend. We were sitting at one end of one of the tables, a group of three other people were sitting at the other end.  James and Johanna squeezed into the space in between. One of the people on the other end of the table obviously, didn’t have “the taste or sophistication, to appreciate the depth, character and quality of his premium craft brewed beer”. When he left, I said to James I think he’s gone back to drinking “mass marketed, bland, cheaply made watered down lager” We got talking, we said we were shareholders, that we liked the beer, we liked the pub. James went to the bar and came back with a 4 glasses and a bottle of  Bashah Imperial and Tayberry reserve. I was blown away. This was beer in a different class. I was hooked.

So here is why I think BrewDog matters.

 They Brew Great Craft Keg Beer

I like my beer cold. Brewdog beers are mostly designed to be served cold. Granted with some styles like stouts and porters, the flavour develops as you let it warm up a little. Hops, did someone say hops? These guys use a lot of hops, and not just any old hops either. Bucket loads of aromatic hops from around the world. Not just in the kettle either. Some beers are dry hopped too.  That’s why the beer tastes and smells as good as it does. Lets not forget malt. Unless it says wheat beer on the label, it’s all malted barley in there. Ok so they do use some types of sugar in some of the higher strength beers. They don’t want the yeast to starve to death and die. The longer the yeast lives and eats the more alcohol it excretes. Additives, preservatives, and isinglass finings are not used in the making of a Brewdog beer. Their beers are suitable for vegetarians. They do lightly filter, but they don’t pasteurise. They want to leave the flavour in the beer.

The Bars

BrewDog craft beer bars are great places to drink. In my local, BrewDog Aberdeen, most of  the BrewDog core range is usually available on keg. Alice Porter and Tokyo* are on keg fairly frequently too. Tactical Nuclear Penguin and Sink the Bismark are available in 25ml measures, allowing people to try them without having to spend serious money on a whole bottle.

We usually see the special beers on keg when they are released, even the Abstrakts. The Guest board changes regularly. Mikkeller, Stone, Flying Dog, and Port Brewing/Lost Abbey are only a few of the great names that have featured on the guest boards. I’m looking forward to seeing some beers from some of the other British Craft keg brewers in the near future There is even a customer tap. If you buy the beer on this tap, you get to vote for one beer from a choice of three. When the keg finishes the beer with the most votes goes on next.

The range of rare and unusual bottled beers is extensive. Some of these beers have travelled a long way to be here. Others are made in small quantities, but because BrewDog has a good relationship with the brewer, and I’m thinking about Mikkeller here, they can get these beers behind their bars. Perhaps some are a little pricey, but still cost less than the price of a round if you share a larger bottle between four friends. £10-15 may seem like a lot of cash for a bottle of beer, but it is a pretty fair price when compared with what most people spend on a bottle of wine with a comparable ABV.

The bars also host some special meet the brewer nights, when all the taps are given over to the visiting guest brewers’ beers. I was lucky enough to be able to go to the Mikkeller/Nogne O, and Port Brewing/Lost Abbey nights in Aberdeen and The Stone Total Tap Takeover in Edinburgh 

We have also had some of the BrewDog brewers coming down from Fraserburgh to do a shift in the Aberdeen bar. It’s great being able to talk to these guys about the beer, and have some of the finer points about brewing, hops and how they filter explained to you. The Brewers I met are all really approachable (despite in some cases looking a bit scary), guys who are passionate about what they do.

The Aberdeen Bar also sold a Beer/cheese tasting deal on Groupon. What a great way to introduce people to craft beer. They sold 601 in a day. I bought one, and spent an enjoyable couple of hours in the company of “Inappropriate Dan” tasting various beers, having hopping and dry hopping explained, and totally failing to identify Nanny State. I thought it was like Hardcore without the mouthfeel.  

The bars are well run venues. I have seen very little trouble in the Aberdeen bar, and what trouble there was, was dealt with firmly and swiftly. The bars are safe places to drink. A lot of this is down to the very sensible policy of limiting the serving size of higher ABV beers.

I’m lucky that I live in Aberdeen only a short bus journey from the original and best Brewdog bar. As the bar empire expands more people will be able to enjoy these beers in the way I do.

The Bar Staff

The enthusiasm of the bar staff for Craft beer starts right at the top with Bruce. Bruce is the former Aberdeen Bar Manager and now Area Manger of all the bars. This guy is passionate about great craft beer. His passion is infectious and I have tried styles I probably wouldn’t have on his recommendation.

Brewdog educate their Bar staff in the product they are selling. Part of the training programme involves spending time working at the brewery, learning about the entire brewing process.

If you are new to craft beer, visit a bar and talk to the staff.  They know about the beer. They care about the beer. They are enthusiastic about the beer. They will pour you a few free samples. They will help you choose a beer you will like.

Special Beers/Collaborations

Abstrakt series, high abv freeze distilled beers, Nanny State, numerous collaborations, with other craft brewers, barrel aged beers, visiting Gypsy Brewers.

The Craft Beer industry (American Definition) seems to be unlike any other industry, in that the different players get together now and again and collaborate. Some of the best Craft brewers in the world, have visited Brewdog, and brewed beer there. Stone came and brewed Bashah, Three Floyds came and brewed Bitch Please. Lost Abbey came and brewed Lost Dog, which is still ageing in a rum cask.

BrewDog seem to spend a lot of time and effort brewing some pretty unusual and special beers. These guys are not content to sit back and churn out nothing but their core range. They like to experiment. Brewdog in common with many other craft brewers, like to mix up styles, use unusual flavourings, “turn everything up to eleven” and brew some spectacular beers as a result.

Equity for Punks

“Like the beer, own part of the brewery”.

“Drink your beer in your bar”

Selling shares in the company directly to the people who like the beer. OK, they needed the money to grow the business. They could have gone to the bank, but banks need to be paid back with interest, and then want to run your business for you.

So far, at the time of writing, they have raised from both issues £1.7 million. So what do you get for your money. Well admittedly right now a share of the company that is worth only a fraction of what you paid for it. You do how ever get discounts in the online shop, discounts in the bars, when they issue, the shareholder ID card, first dibs on the special beers, and an invitation to the “Soon to be Legendary AGM”. I’ve been to all three AGMs, yes three inside of eight months. The first one was in early December last year, and consisted of a business talk, lunch in Musa, some free beer, a beer and music pairing in the Aberdeen bar, a trip to the brewery with some more free beer, and a party back in the bar at night.

The second AGM was the shareholder brewday in May, when the 60 or so of us who could be there made “Equity For Punks 2011”, tasted loads of free beer, had an update on the business side of things, ate some tasty burgers, put Lost Dog into rum casks, and generally had a good time.

This was followed by a School Dinners themed beer dinner at Musa and some pretty special beers being on in the Aberdeen bar.

The most recent AGM was held in the Edinburgh bar, and was a required formality to do with the existing shareholders agreeing to some legal stuff concerning the new share issue. Again some free beers to taste, and pizza.

At all the shareholder events I do get the impression that James and Martin, genuinely appreciate our investment in Brewdog, and what our money and faith in them has allowed them to achieve.

I have met people with a shared interest in beer and have made new friends by becoming an equity punk, and the web based forum is a great place to ask questions, share information, or just bitch about when things go wrong.

Some have speculated that BrewDog will sell out to a multi-national brewer in the future, and I met a guy in the bar this week, who bought shares across the bar, in the hope of just this happening. I would like to think that there is more chance of Bracken being sold to a Korean butcher, than this ever happening. These guys have worked hard to get where they are, and I don’t think retiring to a Carribean island is on their personal agendas just yet. I hope Brewdog become The Baxters of Speyside of the brewing world. Baxters have rejected somewhere in the region of 200 takeover bids.

Online Shop and Punkdog.com

Admittedly the standard of service from the online shop isn’t what it should be, and with the poor standard of service from Parcelforce only adding to the problems, things need to improve. At the Edinburgh AGM, James apologised for this. Measures are being put into place to improve this, and the online shop is in the process if being outsourced, which should hopefully improve standards.

But hey, when it works the way it is supposed to, it’s a great thing. quality craft beer, delivered right to your door, and not just Brewdog’s own beer either. They also sell some of the bottles they stock in the bars.

Punkdog.com This is a website that allows you to design your own personalised labels for beer bottles, with photographs and text. I’ve used it twice for gifts. It’s easy to use, and comes with a choice of Trashy Blonde, 77 Lager, or Punk IPA in the bottles.

Supermarket listings/Craft Beer in Cans/ Growlers

Unlike Real Ale which is more or less confined to the pub or a beer festival, Brewdog beers can be enjoyed everywhere.

Their beers are available in most supermarkets. Some have accused them of selling out on their “Punk Ethos” because of this. Wake up and smell the hops. They are in the business of brewing and selling beer. They are Capitalists. They are in it to make money and grow the business, and maybe even pay the shareholders a dividend in the future.

Craft beer in a can, or as I like to call them nanokegs. Lighter, cheaper and easier to transport than a bottle. Perfect for festivals and camping trips. They take much less energy to recycle, and the beer tastes just as good.  (I have heard that, there have been some pretty manky cans of Punk on the go and I hope this is just a minor blip.) They also take up less space in your fridge which means it can hold more.

Growlers have been introduced recently. An idea imported from the U.S. Buy a growler, take it to your nearest Brewdog bar and have it filled with the draught beer of your choice to take home and enjoy.

Craft Beer and Food

BrewDog are active in the movement in the UK, to raise the profile of beer and its relationship with food. They have produced a guide to beer and food matching, and have along with many others in the beer world, raised the profile of beer within the restaurant industry.

They hold regular themed beer dinners in Musa Aberdeen, which sell out very quickly. People are interested in drinking good beer, with good food. The vast array of beer styles, mean that there is a beer that goes well with any dish.

I ate in a branch of Byron Hamburger, in London recently. They have Punk IPA, on their drinks menu, along with some other great craft beers, thanks to beer blogger and writer Mark Dredge, who was asked to come up with a choice of beers for them.  The Gaucho restaurant, I ate in, had 3 Meantime beers on the menu and the restaurant in the Tate Modern sells Trashy Blonde as well as a range of Kernel beers.

The Proposed Carbon Neutral Brewery

Let’s face it. Beer is a luxury item. It along with other alcoholic beverages is something we could all survive (unhappily) without. Millions of acres worldwide are planted with crops grown just to feed our love of an alcoholic beverage. This land would probably be better put to use to feed the starving. It’s a compelling argument, and radical vegans will trot out a similar argument, about how wasteful it is to feed grain to livestock to produce meat, eggs and dairy products.  I love beer and I love meat. I’m selfish that way. Such arguments don’t sway me one bit, but despite this I do give a shit about the planet I live on and realise that some things could be done in a better way.

A carbon neutral brewery is an innovative step forward. A brewery that produces all of its own energy. deals with all of its waste onsite and doesn’t pollute the environment, sounds good to me.

Of course this comes with an increased initial cost, but if it’s done right it will work. It will be a showcase for a better way to brew beer, as well as an example of how any manufacturing industry can do things in a better way for the environment.

Beer tourism

BrewDog bars are a destination in themselves. I have met several Danish, Norwegian, and Dutch visitors, who have visited Aberdeen, specifically to visit the Brewdog Bar. A short break, spent drinking quality beers, but with the added economic advantages that come with what they are also spending on hotels, meals, and travel. You could add the Equity Punks, who visit the Aberdeen area for the AGMs, into this category as well. They could just have easily spent the money they pay for travel and accommodation, on a short break to Dublin or Paris.

The visitor facilities proposed for the new brewery site, will be yet another good reason to visit the Aberdeen area.

The Craft Beer Revolution

What is the Craft Beer Revolution? Is it marketing?  I choose to drink better tasting more interesting flavoured beers brewed in a variety of styles.

We are all susceptible to advertising and marketing. Choices we make in our daily lives are constantly being influenced by marketing and advertising in all its forms. It is rammed down our throats we cannot escape from it, it is everywhere.  

BrewDog are just as guilty as any other brewer large or small in using marketing to sell its product. I as a consumer am just as guilty for falling for the hype. I first bought the beers because I saw the name somewhere and wondered what the hype was all about. Turns out I liked them. However they are sometimes just a little bit more clever about how they go about this. Remember no publicity is bad publicity. Whatever you think about the disputes with the Portman Group, the high abv beers, the text on the bottle labels, the taxidermy, their facebook page, multiple twitter accounts, the Brewdog Blog, the hilarious/purile/informative video blogs and the CAMRA baiting it has got the BrewDog name out there.

They are prodigious users of social networking to reach their target audience. This also allows interaction and debate.

They have the beer to back it all up as well. Any brewery, which can sell more beer than it can brew, despite contract brewing elsewhere, must be doing something right. 

My only hope is that the negative marketing tactics are consigned to the backseat in the future. They have achieved their aim. It’s time to start concentrating on what is good about Brewdog. I don’t want to hear that Stella is shit, and real ale is boring anymore. Tell us what is great about your beer.

BrewDog have also opened/kicked in the door for other breweries in the UK brewing quality craft keg beers. I recently met James and Andy from the Summer Wine Brewery. They are also brewing some Keg beers with huge amounts of American and New Zealand hops. They have taken their inspiration from Brewdog, just as BrewDog took theirs from the likes of Stone Brewing in America. These guys are just as passionate about great tasting beer as BrewDog are and I’m looking forward to trying their beer.

Brewdog arrived in 2007. In 4 short years what started as two young men, a dog and some big ideas has grown to become Scotland’s largest independent brewery. They are opening successful Craft Beer Bars at a time when the pub industry is suffering unprecedented decline.

They are one of the most exciting and innovative young breweries in the UK today. They brew beer for flavour first and foremost. They have achieved much in a short space of time and have the potential to achieve so much more.

I am proud to be an Equity Punk.

Vive le Revolution."



  1. Well done, for buying the PR. That read like you stitched it together from Brewdog press releases. I am an 'original' punk and thought very similar to you at one stage. I am open-minded about Brewdog as an investment; and the hyperbole was probably the thing that got me into it in the first place. I have drank more varieties of beer, some truly great beer, and meet some great people along the way, but the message has become confused in their desire for growth. They are simply a novelty that has worn off for me. I don't resent what you say, but Brewdog is about making money not beer.

  2. " Ok so they do use some types of sugar in some of the higher strength beers. They don’t want the yeast to starve to death and die. The longer the yeast lives and eats the more alcohol it excretes."

    Punk Rock!

  3. Oh dear.

    That's not why BrewDog matters, that's just an advertorial about what BrewDog do.

    BrewDog matter because they have played a significant part the way the UK beer scene has changed so dramatically over the past 2 years.

    They have helped challenged the consumer to try something new, provided a medium whereby non-beer drinkers can find beer more accessible by creating a cool environments and image, and shown that the perceptions we have of 'beer' do not have to be played to.

    They have also challenged other breweries to look inward at their branding and marketing. The more good marketing is incorporated into brewery operations they more successful the industry will be.

    They have also helped to influence and entire generation of new brewers and this is helping create a greater depth of beers being produced, providing more choice to the consumer and encouraging brewers to be braver with their recipes.

    BrewDog weren't the first, and they aren't always the best but they make the most noise, do it with the most 'style' and understand the importance of good marketing as well as good beer. They bring attention to themselves, and as a result they bring attention to the rest of the industry.

    The attention BrewDog garner has already started to filter through. They opened a door to a room that many brewers knew was there, some had even peaked inside. BrewDog came along, kicked the fucking door down, shouted about how good they were and left the door wide open. That room is now being filled and the UK beer scene is now far more exciting than it ever has been.

    BrewDog have transcended their industry to become more than just a brewery. They are CRAFT v's CAMRA and to the trendy hipster kids that is extremely important. The image is as important as the beer.

    What that means is that BrewDog (and others) will provide a bridge to microbrewed beer of all styles. They will attract new drinkers to non-mainstream beers and as a result when those kids are in a bar with no BrewDog they will be more inclined to try a local cask beer than a pint of Tennents.

    The UK brewing scene needed a BrewDog. It needed something that 'just isn't British' to act as a catalyst, to force the consumer to pay attention to beer and this has encouraged more breweries to be more inventive and diverse in their brewing.

    BrewDog are not solely responsible for this, but are they the most influencial brewery in the UK microbrew scene in the past 24 months? More than any other brewery have made point of saying that beer isn't just beer and it WILL benefit the rest of the microbrew industry.

    That's why BrewDog matter.

    As for Isinglass finings.... really? REALLY? Ask Bowman is they use Isinglass in the cask beer. See what response you get. Incidentally, I know the response.

  4. I have to disagree with Mike. Increasing production and selling to supermarkets means more people drinking decent beer with actual flavour. That can never be a bad thing. Craft beer is bot an exclusive club, it's something that should be available to everyone. Have you tried the Tesco Finest Double IPA? It's made by BrewDog and is of serious quality. Tesco is everywhere (something I actually really hate) but on the other hand that means so is some excellent craft beer. For me BrewDog is about getting craft beer out to as many people as possible, not just their own beers, other great brewers as well (see guest beer section on their website). I'm sold on flavour not PR

  5. Tesco finest double IPA (Hardcore) is made with hop extract.

    The vast majority of the rest of the beer is made with hop pellets.

    Making beer entirely from malted barley isn't in any way uncommon; industrial lagers etc are made with adjuncts, but it would be very rare for any micro-to-mid-sized brewer to use anything but malted barley.

    I'm also very confused about the 25ml shots -- if its beer, then that's not a legal measure. If it is a legal measure, then it's a spirit and so they shouldn't be producing it at their brewery without a distiller's license.

  6. A decent enough article but I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by a BrewDog Press Officer. Mike you are totally spot on with your comments, I am pleased that someone else has the same views about BrewDog as myself. Chris are you a trendy hipster kid? I would love to know why craft Vs camra is extremely important to them. You seem to have fallen for most of the marketing piffle that BrewDog spout, beer is not about image but about TASTE. Jimmy the Tesco Finest Double IPA is actually just Hardcore IPA with Tesco labelling, another example of BrewDog "selling out to the man" for serious financial gain.... and I bet the first major multi national company to come knocking will result in a takeover.

  7. Great blog article Ian. Spot on.

  8. I know the BrewDog guys well. They have already turned down several take over bids.

    Owen - all the world's best IPAs use alpha extract for bittering - Three Floyds, Russian River, Mikkeller, Lagunitas all use this for the bitterness in their double IPAs.

  9. I don't deny that, but it's not something most people realise, and certainly not something the company shout about when they do their periodical "all natural ingredients" boasts (or when lambasting other brewers for using extract).

  10. Martin,

    Excellent, how fantastically ignorant.

    Beer is not about image its about taste? What about the brewing industry? Why do multi-corporations like INbev and Molson Coors spend millions of pounds on marketing? Because it IS about image and NOT about taste.

    Why are BrewDog more successful than microbreweries that produce better beer? Their image, the company rhetoric, the inherent propoganda.

    I've fallen for it? Why, because I can see what they are doing right and how it's helping our industry and that I can identify their business model and why it works?

    They have adopted a big company marketing strategy but aligned it with making niche market beers which they have then forced in to the mainstream through mass distribution. Ever heard of Sierra Nevada?

    CAMRA is synonymous, rightly or wrongly with old bearded men with sandals. Ever read Viz the 'Real Ale Twats'? What BrewDog have done is give that anti CAMRA movement an identity, and whether they know anything about beer or not they like the image and that they are fighting against something. Even if they have no idea what they are fighting or why. They have totally bought in to the BrewDog ethos, as my friend Craig says, they've been dogwashed.

    As irritating as that element is, BrewDog are turning these guys on to microbrewed beers. In that respect they are doing the industry a favour in the long run. Why do you think that's bad?

    Interesting that you equate 'selling out to the man' as 'serious financial gain'. The abv on Hardcore pushes the duty up, the ingredients are expensive and Tesco will buy the beer at a heavily discounted price, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a loss leader for the brewery. However, it gets a high abv beer in to the supermarket shelves, and showcases the brewery introducing a much wider audience to that style of beer. How many other Imperial IPA's do Tesco sell, off the top of your head? So far as I'm aware, the answer is none. So BrewDog have 'sold out'? Have they not just increased their 'viewing figures' and enabled more people to try a very niche beer and increased their appeal? This is a bad thing for a business why?

    BrewDog are out to make money, but I still fail to see what's wrong with that, and making money does not equate to a drop in standards. I keep hearing about the inconsistencies of the beer these days. Anyone who knows about BrewDog (and many many other microbreweries) knows they've always been inconsistent, this isn't new. The only difference is, more people notice now because the beer is more widely available.

    However they absolutely have a passion for great beer too, and inspiring others to gain a passion for great beer and to care about what they are drinking. Would they rather you drank BrewDog? Yes. Would they rather you drank a Dark Star instead of a Carling? Yes.

    You see it as selling out, I see it as building a brand quickly which enables them to take their business to the next level. Without Tesco and Sainsburys giving them national exposure would they have gained over a £1 million in investment in a matter of weeks? No chance.

    Is that level of individual personal investment about taste or image?

    I think you'll find beer is very much about image, it just has to taste good to enough people.

  11. Is this the same Chris Mair that accused others of "being smart"? The one with a penchant for rhetorical questions? Is it? Incidentally, I know the answer.

  12. Childish, well done.

    There's a difference between "being smart" and being reasonably knowledgeable about a subject.

  13. I'm not even tempted to ask you to explain

  14. Chris. Unfortunately the Beer Monkey edited the title slightly, losing the words "A Personal View". I've only been blogging for about a month now, and was asked to write this article and gave it a go. It was written from an entirely personal perspective and admittedly, a more apt title could have been "Why I Like Brewdog". I wrote it based on my personal experiences. I don't work in the beer industry as you do, so thanks for expanding on a lot of relevent stuff I merely alluded too or failed to mention at all.
    As for Isinglass I was standing about two feet away from Stewart Bowman when he was asked if Brewdog used it. His answer was no and that is why I wrote that Brewdog don't use Isinglass. Maybe I mis-heard the question, or took something out of context. I would be interested if any one from Brewdog could comment.

  15. http://www.barnivore.com/beer/1012/Brewdog-Beer

  16. @Owen: you seem to be having a go at BrewDog just like it was 1971 all over again.

    Overall, do you think their bars enhance the appreciation of beer in Scotland? Or not?

  17. I wouldn't know, not having been around in 1971. The idea that I only feel the way I feel about Brewdog because of CAMRA (as you imply) is nonsense.

    The world isn't black and white. I recognise that they have increased the profile of quality beer in a demographic that other brewers (and CAMRA) have found it difficult to reach.

    However, their methods leave a lot to be desired. The ends do not justify the means.

  18. I reckon if we were able to re-use all the hot air and burning bullshit that results from every Brewdog-related blog, we could power a brewery several times over.

  19. Chris, "Because it IS about image and NOT about taste".... I'll stick to drinking beer that tastes great whilst wearing my sandals, in an old man pub, reading a quality monthly like What's Brewing, you can stick to drinking beer that you think makes you look hip, happening and cool whilst reading your comic book Viz.

  20. Chris, you are funny. For a bloke that used to work for Brewdog you know it better than most, particularly about the supply and quality issues that the company has faced. Making money is not the key issue either, any brewer is in it to make money (regardless how big or small that may be).

    Whenever I drink a beer more than one I want it to be half-decent and brewdog struggle to do that anymore (with their everyday beers). It can be double, triple, quadruple, dry-hopped, aged is Jura/Highland/Rum/Islay casks with blueberries/raspberries/strawberries/gooseberries/a.n. other (lingen/tay/boysen/etc) berry (delete / substitute as appropriate) their next 'revolutionary' beer as much as they want, it is just hyperbole.

    It is completely laughable that you suggest they blew the 'door wide open' - they weren't the first, and the market was growing organically, substantially, as it was anyway. If it wasn't them it would have been someone else, probably Thornbridge, at the forefront - who make more, and better than them anyway.

    Make a beer that is consistency good, like Darkstar, or Thornbridge, or Marble, or in small batches as they accept every batch will vary, due to the production methods (like MagicRock or Kernel) and I will drink that anyday. Brewdog? They just bore me and the beer is crap.

    See you at Garvie's on Friday!

  21. " Why do multi-corporations like INbev and Molson Coors spend millions of pounds on marketing?" That is indeed a very good question Chris. I guess it's for people like you to see Jean Claude Van Damme drinking a Coors Light in their ads and rush out and buy one yourself so as to look cool........

    As for the point about BrewDog selling out to Tesco it's the fact they have allowed Tesco to rebrand one of their products as a Tesco Finest product, why not just let them sell Hardcore IPA? Oh, yes, that'll be down to money again, which in my view is BrewDog's primary aim and to hell with the quality and consistency of the beers they produce.

  22. The Tesco beer is different from Hardcore. Has a much more bitter back-end. I prefer it

    Tony (I can never get the damn 'profile' selection thing to work on here)

  23. This double ipa beer is genuflecting towards bad taste-like tenants extra posing as palateable because marketed with craft label-maybe crafty would be more apposite-giving craft beers a bad name-try old crafty hen for a genuine crafted bottled beer-far superior and far less corporate-3 for a fiver at tescos too.